City of Lawrence

Board of Electrical Appeals, Regular Meeting

July 1, 2009 minutes

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:

 

Mel Lisher, Tom Cox, Daniel Beebe, Tim Kaufman and Verlon Myers

 

MEMBERS ABSENT:

 

 

BJ LaBounty and Russell Brickell

 

 

 

STAFF PRESENT:

 

Phil Burke

 

PUBLIC PRESENT:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The meeting was called to order at 6:05 by Chairman Beebe.

 

Minutes

The minutes of the June 3rd, 2009 meeting had been provided to all members.  Beebe made a motion to accept the minutes, Myers seconded the motion; the motion passed unanimously.

 

Correspondence

None received.

 

Unfinished Business

No unfinished business was presented.

 

New Business

A copy of the amended draft page was provided by email and postal to all members. The change had struck out all newly added rooms and left only bedrooms intact.

 

Lisher commented that he had talked with a representative of Western Extralite here in Lawrence regarding AFCI’s. He was informed that if a demand for branch feeder AFCI’s existed the manufacturing of those devices would continue.  Lisher said they had called the manufacturer to verify. 

 

Staff had not heard from any source he had contacted to their availability.  The UL standard is the same for both devices, but some differences exist in threshold limits according to the chart. 

 

A general discussion ensued regarding various issues and problems with combination AFCI’s of different manufacturers.  Members have been asking other contractors how the combination AFCI’s have been performing for them. 

 

Staff suggested the wording could be left as is or drop the term combination type out of the section and have it read “protected by a listed arc-fault circuit interrupter, installed to provide protection of the branch circuit”.

 

Cox made a motion to further amend 210.12 (B) by striking out the words “combination-type”.  The motion was seconded by Myers and passed by four to one.

 

Staff had distributed the 2009 IRC to all members present. 

 

Cox asked if the review would be about the same process for the IRC as it was for the NEC. 

 

Staff responded the Board would be responsible for the electrical section only.  He briefly touched on some areas that would be required to be amended.  No particular schedule has been suggested. Significant changes books are available in the office if necessary during the review.  Staff said the review process is up to the Board.

 

Beebe thought the Board should finish with the one review before beginning this one.   Once the draft is returned from legal the Board would have to meet and vote to send it to the Commission.  Beebe suggested that the Board would stand adjourned until such a time the draft is received back from the City legal department.  Members were advised that during this time they could review the electrical sections in the 2009 IRC. 

 

 

Adjournment

Lisher made a motion to adjourn, seconded by Cox; motion passed unanimously and the meeting was adjourned at 6:45 pm.

 

 Respectfully submitted,

 

 

 Phil Burke, Secretary