City of Lawrence

Recycling and Resource Conservation Advisory Board

July 12th, 2006 Meeting Minutes

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:

Aimee Stewart, Daniel Poull, Cindy Strecker, Laura Routh, Dickie Heckler, Kevin Dobbs

MEMBERS ABSENT:

Chris Cobb, Marie Stockett, John Craft

STAFF PRESENT:

Mollie Mangerich

 

GUESTS PRESENT:

Bob Yoos, SW Division Manager

PUBLIC PRESENT:

 


 

1      2005 Annual Recycling Report - DISCUSSION W/Bob Yoos, Solid Waste Division Manager

 

Q. (Routh) Two thousand tons of Municipal Solid Waste (MSW) were generated less than in 2004 – why do you think there is this difference?  Are you able to find out what types of MSW were generated less?

A. (Yoos) It’s hard to know the exact changes in waste composition.  Example:  The weight of yard waste can change year to year based on weather patterns.  It also could be changes in economic activity – although it is forecasted that our local sales tax revenue is projected to continue to increase.  The change in weight (MSW) could also be attributed in the way in which we collect yard waste.  Now we only accept Compostable yard waste bags, cans and carts at the curb.  In years past, (when we allowed plastic bags filled with yard waste) there were always a few days in the heavy grass growing season where we couldn’t finish our yard waste collection route in one day due to time required to open and de-bag all yard waste in the truck’s hopper.  For those days, we’d have to send that extra yard waste up to the landfill for disposal – as we couldn’t have processed it all in one day.

 

The Board should notice that the 2005 report shows that the MSW generated (tons/capita) in Lawrence decreased as well as the tons/capita of material captured for recycling.  We decreased our recycling rate by 1% from 2004 to 2005 and we attribute it to the WalMart being closed for 6 months.

 

Q. (Poull) Does our data include the University of KS population?

A. (Yoos) Yes.

 

Q. (Routh) Is it the intent of the Annual Recycling Reports to include projections of future waste streams diverted or is the Report meant to be retrospective?

The Annual Recycling Report is retrospective for the purpose of reporting on the previous year’s waste generation and recycling activities – but the Solid Waste Division (SWD) continues to grow our recycling programs through our cardboard (OCC) collection, drop boxes (OCC, ONP) and increasing sorted office paper (SOP) in our schools, government offices and businesses.

 

Q. (Poull) Are any property management companies in Lawrence providing recycling for their tenants?

A. (Yoos) Not to our knowledge.

Comment: (Heckler) We’re doing good, but we could do better.

 

Comment: (Yoos) Yes, and it gets harder and harder to gain more recycling percentage points.  However, a beverage container deposit law for the state of KS should be continued to be encouraged as they have shows to significantly (a) reduce litter; and (b) increase MSW recycling rates in the states and communities in which they’re adopted.

 

Comment: (Routh) Iowa has a beverage container deposit law.  Hy-Vee argues and lobbies to the state legislature each year to disband the deposit requirement in Iowa.  Their argument is that it may pose a public health issue.

 

Comment: (Yoos) Redemption Centers are an option / alternative to point of sale collection centers (e.g., Grocery stores).  While funding mechanisms vary from state to state – most have a percentage of the deposit return to the designated Redemption Center and another percentage going to the state.  On a similar vein, a recovery and recycling program for Electronic waste (“e-waste”) was developed by the KS Dept. of Health and Environment, but failed support at the KS (state) level.

 

Comment (Poull):  Our cheap landfill disposal rate is both a blessing and curse to recycling efforts.  Also, the Hamm landfill has a life expectancy of around 95 years.

 

Comment (Yoos):  Good point.  An example is city of Hays, KS where they pay $60/ton for landfill disposal fees.  They implemented a mandatory curbside recycling program, but must ship their recyclables to Hutchinson for processing.  Their landfill waste is trucked to Rolling Meadows landfill.

 

Comment (Routh): One discomfort I have is not to do with the activism of the city, but rather the economics of waste management globally.  By focusing primarily on the short term waste management costs as a “cost/ton function” – we risk becoming complacent.  The city should not tout the benefits of cheap landfill disposal that we have in Lawrence (through Hamm Companies landfill).  It is sending the wrong message.  We shouldn’t emphasize cheap disposal costs to our public – as it misses the mark of environmental advocacy.  Example:

a)    the Hamm corporation could incur some organizational change;

b)    there could be a lapse in groundwater protection; and/or

c)    the city could lose the autonomy of disposal options.

 

Comment (Strecker): Pay-as-you-throw (PAYT) programs reduce trash while increasing recycling rates.  Example: Kansas City, MO.

 

Comment (Yoos): As a public entity, it is the responsibility of the SW Division to achieve our integrated waste management goals in the most cost-effective manner and environmentally-responsible way for our ratepayers.  Both the city commission and the public dislike cost spikes in service fees. 

 

In regards to PAYT programs, there are many variables that are different between communities.  What works for others may not work for us.  My analyses shows – due to our high population of multi-family and non-permanent residents, and phenomena of “move out trash” – that implementing a curbside recycling program with PAYT would actually increase the costs of solid waste services and be very hard to enforce.

 

Q. (Heckler) Who pays for the disposal of “move out” trash?

A. (Yoos) The landlord or property owner in most cases. The City’s finance office attaches that fee to their facilities’ utility bill.  The SWD prefers to try and get large rolloff containers to apartment complexes prior to move out (end of lease) date.

 

Q. (Routh) Who communicates the availability of roll-off containers to multi family facility owners/managers?

A. (Yoos) The Solid Waste Division and WRR Division

 

Q. (Routh) Are subscription to roll-offs on a voluntary basis?

A. (Yoos) Yes.

 

Q. (Dobbs) What is the cost of a roll-off service for trash?

A. (Yoos) size of rolloff (rental fee) x frequency of collection x landfill disposal costs (assessed by scale house at landfill)

 

Q. (Dobbs) How does this fee structure compare with Deffenbaugh’s costs?

A. (Yoos) Comparable.  We’re less expensive that Hamm Companies roll off services we’re the only ones to provide these roll-off services to residents within the city.

 

Q (Dobbs) By ordinance?

A. (Yoos) Yes

 

Q. (Dobbs) What do you consider the barriers to mandatory curbside?

A. (Yoos) The cost factor and the dissent by the public with government “telling them what to do”.

 

Comment (Routh): One could tweak the program such that multi-family clusters could be removed from any mandatory curbside recycling program

 

Comment (Yoos): Oread Neighborhood would be a good candidate in regard to that consideration.

 

Q. (Poull) What incentives could be created to encourage recycling?

A. (Yoos) The definition of an incentive can change between people – but cost is still a factor.  In breaking down our current residential solid waste services rate for one month, 18% of that fee goes for disposal – the remains of that month fee cover the costs of operations and administration.

 

Q. (Dobbs) What would it cost for the city to provide curbside recycling services?

A. (Yoos) $8.00 - $12.00/month per household depending upon level of service.  Those are the fees derived in the most recent “2004 Increasing Recycling in the City of Lawrence” report.  Those prices would most likely change due to changes in cost of fuel and changes in emission restriction standards.

 

Q. (Routh) Did you look at other methods of collection?  Example: NOT city-provided curbside collection?

A. (Yoos) – Bob reported to the Board the information within the table below.

 

City

Curbside Recycling Available

Public or Private

Charge

Lawrence

Yes

Private

(they use Drop-offs)

Varies, $6-$15/month

Columbia

Yes

Public (City MRF)

Included in Fee
(Supported by revenue from landfill)

Emporia

No

 

 

Leavenworth

No

 

 

Manhattan
(Private Haulers)

No

 

 

Newton

Yes (Mandatory)

Public (City MRF; private MRF)

Included in Service Fee ($18.50)

Olathe

Yes

Public (Private MRF)

$2.70/month

Overland Park
(Private Haulers)

Varies by Vendor

Private (Private MRF)

$1.75/month

Salina

Yes

Public (Private MRF)

$10 sign-up fee, $4.90 a month

Shawnee County (Public and Private Haulers)

Yes

Private (Private paper MRF)

$10/Month varies

Wichita
(Private Haulers)

Yes

Private (Private MRF)

$4.50 and up/month

 

Q. (Strecker) The city currently operates drop off boxes for ONP and OCC – would you consider adding drop off boxes for OWP?

A. (Yoos) That’s a viable option, while we haven’t looked at that option – it would be a feasible option.

 

Q. (Strecker) What about drop off boxes for plastic beverage containers?

A. (Yoos) It would be expensive, for little (recycling rate) benefit.  The plastic would need to be hauled loose in rolloffs to KC (Deffenbaugh).  60 miles round trip at $3.00/gallon would be expensive.

 

Q. (Dobbs) What about baling it (plastic) at your facility?

A. (Yoos) We have space limitations on the processing floor at our current SWAN facility.  There would have to be adequate storage space available to compile “bale-able amounts” – there would be no sorting room capacity to remove contamination of plastic, etc.

 

Q. (Routh) What about going to bid for a recycling service to serve Lawrence?

A. (Yoos) We could, however, Deffenbaugh would leverage themselves into the solid waste collections over time and they’d also put the current private recycling companies out of business.  Deffenbaugh has approached the city in the past.  At that time our city manager believed if we let go of or infrastructure and personnel – we’d never get that back.  He turned them down.

 

Comment (Routh): Middleburg, VT issued a RFP that was awarded to a small business.  They promoted it as an economic development and small business employment opportunity.  It would seem that the city should issue a RFP to see what the market would bear.

 

Q. (Yoos): Did the recycling company have a facility to take their materials to locally?

A. (Routh): Yes

 

Comment (Routh): The city could ask within the RFP that the awardee build a MRF – perhaps the city would give them a tax exemption to do so.  The RFP should be a visioning process.

 

Q. (Routh): Couldn’t a RFP be constructed as a public-private partnership?

A. (Yoos):  Yes, it could be written that way.  A question to consider is who would be responsible for the billing.

 

Q. (Heckler) Assume you are mandated to provide curbside recycling.  What would you do?

A. (Yoos) I would do what the city commissioners ask me to do.  But I’d recommend we first break ground and construct a MRF (materials recovery facility) – as is documented in the 2004 report “Evaluation of Waste Diversion Strategies for Lawrence: Special Focus on Curbside Collection of Recyclables.”

 

Q. (Heckler) Can you do that and still have private haulers employed?

A (Yoos) We would have to open the RFP process to all haulers.

 

Q. (Heckler) Can you establish preference points for small businesses?

A. (Yoos) We would have to first ask and discuss what our legal restrictions are.

 

Q. (Poull) Can a MRF pay for itself?

A. (Yoos) No, not at current prices.  We’d have to hire a consultant to aide us constructing the appropriate size MRF based on capture rate of specific recyclables, and estimated growth in capacity over a 20 year period.

 

Comment (Routh): We need to re-evaluate ourselves as a community.  Do we choose to implement programs based solely on a “balancing the books” model where we demand recycling pay for itself, and abandon any idea of curbside recycling?  Or do we implement programs based on the Long Term picture whereby we extend the life to the landfill.  Is there the political will to do this?

 

Comment (Yoos): It appears to me the real question is, “what price do we want to pay for convenience?”  Also, it is the city commission’s decision to implement a program.  The Solid Waste Division has never expected our services to pay for themselves.

Comment (Routh): I disagree that curbside recycling wouldn’t increase the recycling rate.  I have the right to respectfully disagree.  I don’t hear what you’re going to do to expand recycling, increase recycling convenience and opportunities.  All I hear is that we’re not getting curbside recycling and why we shouldn’t get it.

 

Comment (Routh): I want to see vision, motivation and willingness to find new ways of increasing service.

 

Comment (Yoos): I don’t see a problem with what we’re doing now. I write within the Report that residential curbside would increase our recycling rate by an estimated 2-4%; and it would be expensive in gaining that increase as described in the report.  We could assume that the Walmart Drop Off center would most likely close and we would also close down the drop off boxes and private curbside recycling companies would go out of business. 

 

Comment (Routh): I think the focus should be on the non yard waste materials that need to be recycled.

 

Q. (Dobbs): Do we know the quantity of non yard waste materials being generated by Lawrence citizens?

A. (Yoos): Yes.

 

Comment (Poull): I think we should remove yard waste from our Recycling Rate.

 

Comment (Dobbs): We’re seeing things in different ways.  Tons and dollars vs. resource conservation.  We’re not currently measuring the intangibles of feeling like you making a contribution to the world we live in by having mandatory curbside recycling.  It is an activity that bonds the family and bonds the community.

 

Comment (Poull): Staff don’t vision.  Boards vision.  We tell staff what we vision.

 

Comment (Dobbs): Corliss said push the envelope.

 

Comment (Heckler): I would like to experiment with more drop box locations sites.  For example at Parks and Recreations Centers.

 

In summary, the board and staff thought these types of meetings are valuable to all, and the board would like to continue them – but all noted the meetings should be respectful in tone.

 

2      Approval of Meeting Minutes

Laura Routh made the motion that June RRCAB Meeting Minutes be approved.  Motion seconded by Dickie Heckler.  Motion approved unanimously.  

 

Action to be taken: Staff will provide approved minutes for submission to the City Commissioners and posting on the city’s website.

 

3      Recycling Subcommittee Report – Laura Routh

The Board decided to defer submittal of “Improving Residential Recycling” memo so that another revision may occur based on the conversation today.

         

Comment (Dobbs): The next version of the memo should include language referencing the other intangible reasons why increased recycling should happen in Lawrence (e.g. education, family values, water quality)

         

Comment (Routh): Someone else should take on the task of revising the memo as she is too close to it.

         

Comment (Poull): It is fine if we disagree with the city.  We can make recommendations that aren’t necessarily “cost effective”.  We don’t need to include Bob’s comments in our memo.

 

9Action Item: Daniel Poull will take on next revision of recycling memo to the city commissioners.  Board members should get their comments to Daniel within 2 weeks (around July 26).

 

9Action Item: Kevin Dobbs will email board members and update them on the recycling memo issue and request they send comments to Daniel within timeline established.

 

4      Energy Conservation Subcommittee Report

No meeting of the Energy Conservation Subcommittee was held.

 

9Action Item: Aimee Stewart will follow up with Carol Nalbandian re: getting Lied-knowledgeable speaker for the Library Advisory Board and what schedule would work best for their Board.

 

Question was asked if John Craft had drafted, “..a memo for revision and review of the Board.  The eventual memo should be sent from the Chairperson, Kevin Dobbs.” (per June 13, 2006 Minutes)

 

9Action Item: Cindy Strecker will call John and see if he needs assistance on that memo.

 

The next meeting scheduled for the Energy Conservation Subcommittee will be at Yello Sub (on campus), July 18th @ 11:30 a.m.

5      Energy Conservation Subcommittee Report

 

Laura Routh had concerns that RRCAB meeting minutes were not getting to the City Commissioners.  She found gaps of 6 months of RRCAB minutes not included on the city website in 2005-2006. 

 

Comment: (Mangerich) The board shouldn’t assume that if Minutes aren’t posted on the website, they weren’t forwarded to the city commissioners. 

 

9Action Item: Mollie will ask Tammy Bennett about RRCAB minutes (posting on city website and giving them to our City Commissioners) and report back to the Board. 

 

9Action Item: Laura will email Mollie the missing months she has noted and the URL on the City’s website where they are missing.

6      Home Energy Conservation Fair and Sustainable Homes Tour

Copies of the “save the date” HECF were distributed to Board Members.

 

7      Waste Reduction and Recycling Report

Printed copy of monthly updates provided to Board.

 

8      Follow up to Energy Conservation Memo

Mollie reported to Board w/ handouts what is occurring re: energy conservation strategies being implemented at the City Department/Division level.  She then reported back to the board on each item listed as a recommendation memo of December 2004.  The Board would like her to write up her comments and submit to the Board

 

          9 Action Item Mollie will write up her comments on RRCAB’s Energy Conservation       memo and give to board by August Board meeting

 

9     Miscellaneous

·      Some board members noted difficulty sending or receiving emails to/from KU campus. 

    

     9Action Item: Mollie will talk with Information Systems and try to get    this fixed.

 

·      Cool Cities Campaign and US Mayor Climate Protection Agreement

 

                   9Action Item: Kevin Dobbs will draft a memo to the city commissioners           requesting what action has occurred towards implementing these                    initiatives.